The first guest on Shrink Rap was the American comedienne Joan Rivers. Here's her birthchart, and it'll be immediately obvious why her signature question is 'Can we talk?' and two of her autobiographical books were titled 'Enter talking' and 'Still talking':

I thought the Shrink Rap discussion was good, but it left me with a vague feeling that something had been missed, and something perhaps overemphasised. Pamela's view was that a major theme of Joan's life was betrayal; going by the birth chart, I'm not sure I'd put it that way at all, but I do think there is a strong sense of transgression, unreliability, incompetence, and consequently having to do it all on her own while fearing her own competence and adequacy wasn't up to scratch.
Joan probably has an Aries Ascendant, and her Mars is in Virgo. That already gives us the picture of someone who's very, very angry. But Mars is in a T-square with her Sun and Moon, and therefore is also on the midpoint of the Sun/Moon, and this places Mars at the very heart and soul of Joan, and at the very centre of what her life is revolving around.
Mars isn't about betrayal, it's about feeling up against it and having to go it alone with no-one to help, no-one as strong, fast, capable, ready as you, to fight alongside you and slay all the dragons. In Virgo, Mars is especially p'd off about all sorts of rules transgressions, and here Mars has an extremely relentless 'work ethic' that just never lets up, as if it's saying 'work or die - you choose'.
This symbolises an extremely active and potent 'inner critic' - lots of incessant, chattering inner voices constantly beating her up from the inside. Tremendous inner conflict. And yes, the chart suggests Pamela was right to focus on the origins of this in Joan's parental relationship, because Mars is exactly half-way between the Sun (father) and the Moon (mother), and the Sun and Moon are in opposition aspect to each other. Pamela said that Joan's parents were opposites and Joan's first comment about them (if we can trust the programme's editing) was that they "argued about money." This fits the Sun-Moon-Mars T-square. Her being in constant competition and conflict with men and women alike - including her husband and daughter - is also shown here.
The unreliability of Joan's parents was brought up by Joan, highlighting the Virgo planets, the Capricorn-Cancer MC-IC axis, and the Sun-Moon being placed in the Mutable (changeable, roving, multi-tasking) Signs of Gemini and Sagittarius.
Joan 'spoke her chart' perfectly when she responded to Pamela's enquiry about what advice Joan gives to people who've survived suicide:
"Got to go on, got to move on, gonna be angry, just a question of moving forward."
Of course, this isn't the slightest bit emotionally healthy, but it appeals to the Gemini-Sagittarius and Mutable Mars-Jupiter, and that Aries Ascendant. It's also why she takes the approach she does to her career, and enjoys the immediacy and cut and thrust of live television, sparring with audiences and celebrities alike, telling sharp jokes, and suchlike.
Her dislike of her body and the ageing process is a typical Gemini-Sag thing: the eternal youth, the puella. With Mercury conjunct Venus in Gemini, possibly in the 3rd house if the birth time is accurate, and Mars in Virgo, Joan couldn't escape being admired (Venus) for her words and her mind (Gemini, 3rd, Mercury), and the strength (Mars) of her incisive wit (Virgo). Her anger with her body is shown particularly by the Mars-Jupiter-Neptune conjunction in Virgo in square to the Moon. Again, she hasn't accepted something/one she was angry with; she took her own advice to 'move on, moving forward', and used Mars' decisiveness ('de-cidere' literally means 'to cut off') to undergo surgery to try to change what she didn't like.
There's much more that could be said, this barely scratches the surface. Before closing, I wanted to mention one other thing.
Joan's Moon is in paran to a star called Antares, which is in the constellation of Scorpius. This star is about experiencing success and then there is the possibility of causing one's own undoing. It's been written about this star: The natural desire of this star is to generate success by going through a cleansing life-and-death experience. If we leave aside the word 'generate' and just look at this as symbolising a theme, then what it immediately calls to mind is her working relationship with her husband, the career failures she experienced, her husband's suicide and her subsequent temporary estrangement from her daughter, and the years of getting herself back on her own two feet financially and so on.



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